Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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2014-03-29 BOE CONFIDENTIALS PDF Adjustment to financing Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide

by WatchTower87 in

2014-03-29 adjustment to financing kingdom hall and assembly hall construction worldwide.

pdf version: http://adf.ly/juxnc.

instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

On one hand, WT is giving up some levels of control by getting rid of DOs, which used to be a valuable level of direction and leadership. And WT is leaving elder and MS appointments to COs, rather than keeping the control in the hands of "Mother" (even if it was usually just a rubber stamp at the branch).

On the other hand, WT is tightening control over money. There are strict procedures for collection. How the money gets spent is totally at the discretion of "Mother".

Watchtower Corporation has clear priorities. Money is a priority for the GB. Holy spirit appointing elders and MS? Pfft. The CO, Joey Greenhandshakes, can select all the shepherds. The GB is too busy counting money to care about the shepherds or sheep.

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Grandma called the other day, and chose to tell my kids about the tornadoes

by Faithful Witness in

i know this might be overreacting, and i have not said a peep about it to my kids or anyone else... .

last week, my kids wanted to call my mom during the day.

on her last visit, they had talked about calling her on her day off at home.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Global warming is caused by JWs wastefully burning fossil fuels when they spend hours driving around to not-at-homes. So all the catastrophic bad weather is caused by WT.

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Millions Now Living Have Never Lived So Well

by Bob_NC in

that's right, millions now living are living during the best of times for humanity.

but aren't these critical times hard to deal with?

aren't these the last days of a dying wicked system of things.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Doesn't the Bible predict that obesity would be part of the Sign of the Last Days?

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New 1914 Tees Avalialbe Now

by biometrics in

here's my first tee shirt design.

it's something only ex-jws could relate to, yet could also be worn while still in "the truth":.

http://www.cafepress.com.au/thetruth14.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

How about a tee that says something like:

Jesus began ruling in

1914

and all I got was this lousy t-shirt!

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Today's "Special" Talk

by piztjw in

okay folks...here it is:.

blah blah blah blah, bad things and tragedies.

blah blah blah blah, satan!

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Here's how every "Talk" goes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcdCYf0Xo0&list=PL9C2C722A84800994

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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

by pixel in

hello, you read it here first!.

governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

to all congregations.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

As long as WT policy continues to be that the elders are to call the Legal Department at the local branch office FIRST when they hear of any child abuse, WT will continue to be held responsible for protecting pedos. It doesn't matter who does the appointing when it's WT Legal Dept that's so obviously pulling the strings.

Back in the day they claimed elders to be SPIRIT APPOINTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed. There is no mention of holy spirit in this letter.

It's been years since I was in Bethel. So my frame of reference on the thinking of Writing/Service Departments is outdated with all the changes. In my estimation, there must be a reason that it was announced to the entire congregation rather than just sending a letter to the BOE changing the procedure. I'm wondering if this is a response to the study articles back in January that promoted the elders as "Jesus on earth". I wouldn't be surprised if WT got swamped with letters asking, "How did Br. Dipsh!t get appointed by the GB? He was arrested for beating his wife, so don't tell me that I should trust him as a shepherd."

The brevity of this letter with "article to follow" seems like a knee-jerk reaction. The reason "we're doing it like the scriptures" is bizarre, because their reason for doing it the old way was because the technology to check with the GB and have a "spirit appointed" response in a couple of weeks wasn't possible in the 1st century. So why are they dumping the technology for the GB to "prayerfully review each recommendation"? Two things come to my mind:

1) Reducing paperwork for Service Department. Saves postage and a few bethelites with rubber stamps.

2) Less blame for the branch and GB when Br. Dipsh!t gets appointed. You can't blame the GB's lack of holy spirit when it's just the CO that does the appointing. And the COs will continue to get rotated so they only have a limited amount of blame before they get a fresh start.

I just wonder what kind of mail they get at WT these days. Back when I was in Bethel, I knew that they were continually swamped with letters that they took months/years to respond to. Since they've already said, "please stop writing to the branch" it must have gotten a lot worse.

...of course, it doesn't help when people like me keep writing letters to the branch using other peoples' names and addresses.

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The Governing Body told two Elders to call !!!!

by Phizzy in

a friend from the other end of the country just 'phoned and told me that a couple of days ago two elders knocked on his door.

he has been out for four or more years.. they told him it was c.o's visit, and the governing body have asked them to call on those whom they no longer see at the k.hall.. i guess this is an easier "field" than knocking on doors that never open, or where they are told "not interested".. my friend bill though, was not such an easy call.

apparently he managed to get in about 1914 being rubbish, the bible not being the word of god, because we cannot trust it, 1919 being rubbish as to the choosing of the fds and several other telling points.. i liked particularly that he said to them they were rather hypocritical asking householders to examine their faith, when jw's were simply not allowed to !.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Pffft. The elders looking to bring back the lost sheep? Frankly, I think the JWs are the lost sheep.

We've finally found the light and reality. We're living lives and thinking like humans, no longer the helpless sheep we used to be. The elders are trying to drag us back into the darkness and confusion as helpless sheep in their Watchtowerland.

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Meeting with an Elder and his wife

by Abe Ostate in

i'm a non-witness who is doing research on jehovah's witnesses (and has been for several years).

i just got out of a meeting with an elder and his wife.

i'm still somewhat stupefied.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

You can't expect JWs to think freely, express things honestly, or show logic or reason. JWs live in a world of information and thought control. The only questions they are allowed to ask are printed at the bottom of the page of WT publications. Any answer provided in the WT publication is the only acceptable answer. Any thoughts that stray from the current teachings of WT are Satanic lies. To deviate from the confines of WT thinking would result in destruction at Armageddon... very soon now.

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Meeting Today

by lambsbottom in

jw
friends

me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

felt great!

gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

If you haven't been to a public talk in a while, here's a reminder of the experience...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxmJM0muVVs

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Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-26-2014 WT Study (Obey Jehovah's Shepherds))

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

fine.

holy spirit appointed overseers to shepherd?

6:1, 2; jude 22) are these not good reasons for being obedient to those who are taking the lead?read hebrews 13:17.. .

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Riley, "My siblings response was "Where will we go?""

That's the WT brainwashing kicking in. The scriptural question is "Who?" and the answer is "Jesus". One of the best responses I've read on here is: "If your house is on fire and you're standing in the doorway, will you stop to ask "But where will I go?" Would you explain to the firemen that you can't leave the burning building until you have a new house ready to move into? No indeed! Get out of the burning house! You can find plenty of non-burning buildings to move into once you get out.

...just don't move into another building that is already engulfed in flames.